The Overflow

Audio Only: Hot Talks: Women and the Assembly pt. 2
PowerPoint
Bibliography

A mistake I need to point out: the alternate translations for verse 12 made under view #2 should have been on two separate slides. I put them on the same one and that confused me for a moment and caused me to misspeak. Those are actually two separate ways of approaching that verse that shouldn’t be combined (didn’t notice what I’d done until watching the video).

Anyway, this lesson was intended to provide a general overview of different approaches, readings, and applications of this difficult passage in 1 Timothy 2.

I have studied this issue closely. While admittedly I could be very wrong, I am still convinced the traditional reading is best for a number of reasons. I must add, however, traditional application has been and is deeply flawed.

I am not done looking at this issue and still may be convinced the traditional reading is incorrect, but that’s where I am today.

What about you?

“For it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church”: Reexamining 1 Corinthians 14

As I mentioned in my previous post, I’ve been studying the issue of women in the church for a number of weeks now. Below is part 1 of a presentation on women in the assembly dealing with a difficult text from 1 Corinthians 14:

1 Corinthians 14:33b-35
33b   As in all the congregations of the saints,
34     women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.
35     If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
(NIV)

One of the things that complicates this passage is the fact that three chapters previous women were given Paul’s blessing to pray and prophesy in the assembly as long as it was done respectfully. Regardless, this scripture coupled with 1 Timothy 2 has for years been used as a proof-text to justify the nearly full ban of women participating in the worship assemblies of conservative churches.

How could Paul give a blessing to women praying and prophesying in the assembly, then turn around and tell them it’s not okay after all? Either Paul is fickle on this issue, or we’ve missed something in this letter. I propose the latter.

Here’s the lesson: